Mike from the band Liar Thief Bandit sits down with us to share his top 5 albums of all time. This was a lot of fun, and because we're talking about music, we dive into some pretty kick-ass rabbit holes, so grab your favorite beverage and a snack and hit play.
Check out Liar Thief Bandit at their official site: https://liarthiefbandit.com/
Sounds on Vinyl is hosted by Mike Svensson and Phil Bowyer
Produced by BoozeHound Music in cooperation with BoozeHound Entertainment
Intro and Outro music by Grand Rezerva, courtesy BoozeHound Music
Intro and Outro voiceover by Kate Bowyer
OK, so we're trying something new. We're going to release a rough AI generated transcription of the episode. This isn't perfect, but hey, neither are we, right?
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[phil_bowyer]: Hey, hey, welcome to the Sounds on Vinyl show. my name is Phil Bowyer, and as
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[phil_bowyer]: always
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[phil_bowyer]: from across the pond, the open sea
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[phil_bowyer]: is my brother from another mother, Mr. Mikes, Svensson and Mike. How the hell is
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[phil_bowyer]: it going over there in Sweden,
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh, it's good. Really good right now, cause I mean we get to talk about
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[michaelcsvensson]: records, Vi
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[phil_bowyer]: We do.
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[michaelcsvensson]: records
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm,
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[michaelcsvensson]: that. I think it's my most favorite thing ever to talk about.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Yeah, it is it
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[michaelcsvensson]: is. and
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[phil_bowyer]: Yep, Mhm,
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[michaelcsvensson]: speaking of that, I got another mike with us today,
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: So it's two mikes and both are from Sweden.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Go
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[phil_bowyer]: yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: figure right.
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[phil_bowyer]: yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: So
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[michaelcsvensson]: and back on the show
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[michaelcsvensson]: Mike from Liari Bandit, Welcome, my friend,
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[mike]: Hey, guys,
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[phil_bowyer]: he.
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[mike]: thats driving me back.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Of
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[phil_bowyer]: Oh, yeah. any time
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[michaelcsvensson]: course, of course, always. so this is a bit different than we usually
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[michaelcsvensson]: do. So we asked you to pick like your top five albums of all time,
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[michaelcsvensson]: and just run through them and give us your lowow on why you picked them
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[michaelcsvensson]: and why you like them.
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[michaelcsvensson]: So
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[michaelcsvensson]: we're We're really anxious to do this. So
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm,
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[michaelcsvensson]: how's your pulse right now?
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[mike]: Well, it's pretty high.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Yeah,
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[mike]: it's not really.
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[mike]: It's not really
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[mike]: an easy task
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[michaelcsvensson]: no, it's not
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[mike]: to pick up five records and since this is a vinyl show, Well, it's a music show. but
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[mike]: it. it has vinyl in the title, So it's the vinyl format of music that we cherish love
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[mike]: and
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[mike]: pay pay tribute to. So in my,
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[michaelcsvensson]: see. We like you even more. now you see
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah, yeah,
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[mike]: yeah, uh, well, thank you. uh, likewise, um, I think that my pick of vinyl records,
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[mike]: Uh, for a top five will look like this that I will tell you in a minute, but I think
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[mike]: that if I were like,
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[mike]: I don't know fifteen and listen to only like C, Ds and M. P. threes and stuff, Or if I
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[mike]: didn't get into the vinyl at all, I would uh, just listen to Spotify. I think my list
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[mike]: would be
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[mike]: uh, slightly
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[michaelcsvensson]: right,
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[mike]: different,
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[phil_bowyer]: interesting.
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[mike]: Uh, which I think is
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[mike]: very interesting. Uh, that. it's because when I got this this question it wasn't like
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah, that is interesting.
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[mike]: pick out your five best vinyl records. It was pick out your best five albums. and when
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[mike]: I hear the s. the word album today, I think about vinyl records. Uh, did I say vinyl
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[mike]: or albums, Anyways, albums. when I
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah, yeah, yeah,
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[mike]: hear the word albums, I think of vinyl records and I didn't do that when I was growing
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[mike]: up, Uh, for those who would listen to a previous episode where I was on Uh, I talked
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[mike]: about, uh, me, uh, being brought up on C. Ds and the digit digital era, So
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[mike]: me discovering vinyl, Uh, both, um,
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[mike]: uh, from way back when and from my contemporary artists has really been a journey for
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[mike]: me. so yeah, I'm very excited about this.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh, cool. Should
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[phil_bowyer]: awesome.
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[michaelcsvensson]: we like a dive rightide into this?
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[phil_bowyer]: yeah, number five. What's number five?
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[mike]: Sure
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[michaelcsvensson]: Do? do
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[mike]: number five.
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[michaelcsvensson]: you have them in in any particular order? or do you just want to go with
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[michaelcsvensson]: with what you feel? Do you have them in for like five and up to one?
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh cool. you see.
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[mike]: I have them from five up to one.
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[michaelcsvensson]: See
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[michaelcsvensson]: when when
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[mike]: Oh yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: we thought we couldn't like you any morere,
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[michaelcsvensson]: and then
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[phil_bowyer]: I know
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[michaelcsvensson]: you go and do this damn.
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[mike]: well,
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[phil_bowyer]: that's right
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[phil_bowyer]: that's right
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[mike]: of course, of course, so
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[mike]: uh number five. I guess, uh, people that are very much in love with this band. Uh,
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[mike]: people are very in love with this band and this record in particular, and or listening
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[mike]: to this might be a little disappointed that it's not number one. I think it's a number
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[mike]: and uh, Well, I see that you guys are on nails, so I'm just gonna go out and say it.
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[mike]: It's
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh, oh,
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[mike]: guns and roses, appetite for destruction.
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[phil_bowyer]: there. We go there
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[michaelcsvensson]: man,
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[phil_bowyer]: we go. yes,
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[mike]: Yeah, uh, and for those who can't see what I'm holding up is, uh,
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[mike]: it's the original cover. Uh.
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah,
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[mike]: what's it called again? Mike? it's like called something like robots.
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[michaelcsvensson]: it. yeah, it is, uh, a robot. Um a
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[mike]: something.
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[michaelcsvensson]: shit. it's okay. It's our show. it's It's a robot that
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[michaelcsvensson]: that's supposed to rape a girl. Something like that
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm,
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[michaelcsvensson]: that like the, the?
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[mike]: yeah,
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[mike]: you have
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[michaelcsvensson]: Yeah.
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[mike]: explicit. uh, this explicit thing on
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah,
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[mike]: your Uh. when
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can do whatever the fuck we want. I'm sorry.
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[mike]: you get out of the park has right 'cause you say fucking stuff all the time, So yeah,
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[mike]: it's a.
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[phil_bowyer]: yes,
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[mike]: it's a it. I think exactly so, um, it's not
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[michaelcsvensson]: No, of course not.
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[mike]: okay to rape anyone,
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[michaelcsvensson]: no.
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm,
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[mike]: the cover that was
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[mike]: uh, withdrawn as we all know, uh, from that type for
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[mike]: Destruction album the t w album of Gon roses, uh it. I think it's called unofficially,
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[mike]: like the Robert Ra, uh, robot rape cover or something like that. Guns Rose's fans, uh,
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah. yeah. something like that. Yeah.
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[mike]: will, uh, probably rage
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah,
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[mike]: of Um, the hit singles from it. Of course, uh, growing up, Uh, I've heard Welcome to
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[mike]: I've heard, of course Paraise City until my air's bled and then I didn't wantnna
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[mike]: listen to that uh song any more. You know, um, stuff like that, but
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[mike]: uh and of course, sweet shallow mine, but uh, I think
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[michaelcsvensson]: mhm.
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[mike]: later ones like Novemberrain and stuff so so many times and I didn't dislike the band.
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[mike]: later ones like Novemberrain and stuff so so many times and I didn't dislike the band.
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[mike]: I really liked it, but it wasn't something that I dug into,
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[mike]: I really liked it, but it wasn't something that I dug into,
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[mike]: Phil knows as well. You're basically
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh, thank you all right he.
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[phil_bowyer]: thank you, thank you.
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[mike]: it's easy to forget. Take the compliment, guys, and take the compliment.
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[mike]: it's easy to forget. Take the compliment, guys, and take the compliment.
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[mike]: Yeah, um, so anyways, I think that uh, when I actually listened to the album from top
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[mike]: It's like from that era I really
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[michaelcsvensson]: Mhm,
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[mike]: stuff and they refined it. They didn't do it like Cinderella or Mudley Crew or rat.
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[mike]: Sorry, Mike, uh, or um,
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[mike]: or you know, um, poison and stuff. They really did something else. It was like when I
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[mike]: was like Yeah, this is an eighties rock band, but they have listened to Seventies
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[mike]: 'cause I've always seen it like 'cause I'm a guitar player myself. It's like listening
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[mike]: to Slash. it's like he. He was kind of like a Joe Perry from Airsmith on speed, you
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah, yeah,
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[mike]: but I mean uh figure.
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[mike]: figure. A I speaking. However,
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[michaelcsvensson]: figures a li. yeah,
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[mike]: you pronounce that the
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
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[mike]: American can fill anything if you wants. Uh, figuratively, No, I.
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[phil_bowyer]: Oh, okay, that's cool.
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[mike]: I have no idea how.
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[michaelcsvensson]: stuff They, they
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[mike]: so I mean,
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[michaelcsvensson]: did and and told people about like Ros.
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[mike]: I think
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[michaelcsvensson]: They told people about
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[michaelcsvensson]: Th lie, and I told people about Asmith and so forth,
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[michaelcsvensson]: And and I became a fan of rost
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[michaelcsvensson]: only because of of gun and roses, so I found
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[mike]: yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: like more of the older stuff.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Yeah.
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[mike]: yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah, yes,
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah,
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[mike]: yeah,
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[mike]: nice boys play rock and roll right. Isn't that the Rose Tattoo song? Yeah, great,
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[mike]: greaty, cover and a great, uh or original as well.
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah, yeah,
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[mike]: uh, sometimes I get disappointed when I listen to the originals. Uh, because I
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[mike]: listened so much to the
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[mike]: covers of some songs and you go like Ah, but I really like to cover more. That's too
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[michaelcsvensson]: I think so. yeah.
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[mike]: bad, bad or like. Oh, Well, they did it better. whatever, but that one is like that's
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[mike]: almost. Isn't it like? equally good? that one. It's like the rost too. I mean they're
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[mike]: not. uh. it's it's different voices. It's a different sound, of course, because it's
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[mike]: different bands in different era, but
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah. of course, of course.
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[mike]: they do it in the basically
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm, Mhm,
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[mike]: the same way. Still they do it
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[mike]: slightly different. so you get a different feel, but I can't
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah. yeah.
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[mike]: really decide which one is
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[mike]: better because I'm very happy that both both exist. You know.
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah, you see. Yeah, all right. yeah, cool.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Okay. Are you ready to move into a number four?
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[mike]: Yeah, So and yeah, of course, Air Smith's seventies
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh man,
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[mike]: era was, Uh, for me an eye opener when I heard Mamma kin byy, Guns and Roses, so yeah,
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[mike]: that's that proves your point. What you were talking about earlier? Yeah, um, yeah, so
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[mike]: I guess
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[mike]: yeah, I guess. um. that's all for number five, Some number four. Okay, so this one,
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[mike]: um, this album I don't think is very
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[phil_bowyer]: Poss them alone. It's post alone.
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[mike]: significant for you guys, Uh, the band itself, I don't think is very significant for
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[mike]: for either of you guys. Uh, but you have
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[phil_bowyer]: Love it.
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[mike]: mentioned this band. A. lots on this
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[michaelcsvensson]: man,
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[mike]: pacast.
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[mike]: Can C. Can you guess
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[mike]: we're talking about real music here? Fi g. get a grip. Get a grip.
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[mike]: so um, yeah, so that's all I'm going to say? Uh, okay'
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[mike]: a number three. No, um, so it's a band that
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[michaelcsvensson]: No, I'm at suspsr. There's a lot of stuff
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah,
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[mike]: you've mentioned a lot, but you haven't talked about their
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[michaelcsvensson]: Okay, Hion,
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[mike]: music well in a way you have, I guess, or uh, parts of their music. Can you
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[mike]: do you think you can get it?
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh coblls, no
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[mike]: Okay?
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[michaelcsvensson]: cowbs, Yeah,
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[michaelcsvensson]: cowbs, Yeah,
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[mike]: Um,
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[phil_bowyer]: carels okay
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[mike]: if I say percussion.
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[michaelcsvensson]: oh, Blu, us the cult.
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[phil_bowyer]: be o, see.
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[mike]: Yeah, something
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[phil_bowyer]: Okay there we go.
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh, right. Oh, that's a good one.
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[mike]: you hit and it sounds and you can have a lot of them
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[mike]: cowbells exactly. And who has the most cowbells
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[mike]: Blue E, a cop, baby, it's it's not. it's not the D. it's it's not idous, un fortune.
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[mike]: It's not the uh album that Uh contains. Don't fairly Reaper. It's the one they
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[mike]: released before that. A. Actually, they released a double live album in the middle,
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[mike]: but anyways, uh, this is Blue Oyster called Secret treaties and Secret treaties is the
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[mike]: third album by Blue Artster, called Uh, Bluer to colt. Uh, I found E. If I found
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[mike]: Gunsson roses late, I found Blu or called like yesterday. It wasn't yesterday, but fid
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[mike]: speaking, now, I'm trying to say that word again anyways. It's like for me, I grew
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[mike]: into bluerer calls like a couple of years ago, and
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[mike]: Um, I had a hard time from the beginning because I was tired of Don't fair the Reaper
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[mike]: 'cause it's the only one you had
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm,
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[mike]: heard. Some people have also heard like Uh, burning for you from the eighties and
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah, yeah, they came out. I was whatored about
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[mike]: stuff.
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[mike]: And I guess Phil you can chip in her. I guess that Blu Ester Ct was kind of a thing in
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[phil_bowyer]: six, seven, eight in that when B o C kind of got popular, But yeah, I remember
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[phil_bowyer]: like burden for you in the eighties. That was like one of my favorite songs
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[mike]: the U. S. more than in Europe. That's just my guess.
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[phil_bowyer]: back then. and yeah, they. they were pretty big.
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[mike]: yeah,
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[phil_bowyer]: Yeah,
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm.
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[mike]: yeah,
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[mike]: yeah,
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[mike]: yeah. yeah. it's a great song. Yeah, and they did that like th liy thing on that with
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[mike]: dual guitars and stuff. Uh, They were really experimental. In the beginning. They had
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[mike]: like Pattiy Smith writing uh,
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[mike]: uh, writing ▁lyrics for them and they had also their producer writing ▁lyrics for Ori.
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[mike]: If it was a friend. I don't know. They had the same ▁lyrics, on one o, uh song on the
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[mike]: first album and on the second album, which are different songs, but they had the same
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[mike]: ▁lyrics, which. when I, when I found it out i thought I was on dope or something. I
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[mike]: was so like what you know. I. I had
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[michaelcsvensson]: Oh,
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[mike]: to google it and like, Is
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[michaelcsvensson]: all right.
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[mike]: it really the same one? Because I didn't have ▁lyric
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[phil_bowyer]: Mhm.
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[mike]: cheat in my my vinyl. But anyways they're a little bi bi. a little bit strange. they
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[mike]: were trying to, or their record company tried to sell them as the American Black
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[mike]: Sabbath back in the day in, I mean in
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[michaelcsvensson]: yeah,
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[mike]: the seventies, which was so not them. They were like, and all the all the like cult
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[mike]: following mystique thing that was all branded. That wasn't really the band you know,
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[mike]: kinda like Black Sabba. Didn't want the up and uh upside down cross. It was a label
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[mike]: thing. Same thing here. Bletico were very misunderstood in the beginning and this's
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[mike]: not going to be a biography by boys called. We're gonna play some some cowbells
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[mike]: instead, No, but I, I don't know. it's like their third album Secret Treaties is a
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[mike]: very.
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[mike]: It's a very rock and roll oriented album. It has some, uh, some uh, chuckberry, uh,
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[mike]: like boogie style rifts, and
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[mike]: uh, they really, um, like rock out, but still have a
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