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Making use of the Paper Trade S/S proper ...

Making use of the Paper Trade S/S properly

Nov 10, 2021

Paper Trade link v5 (we lost the Paper trade v4 which was where I based the analysis from so some content may not be relevant)

When I decided to post the paper trade s/s link freely for the community, I don't think some people understood how to use it properly. It was not to prove which setting is better as all settings work differently under different circumstances. ROI is only relevant when we look at the overall picture and how much risk can you add for the bot? These tests are assuming you are running at 100% risks, so for example a safer setting like TA 2.5 you can actually run more bots than a urma type bot.

Anyways lets summarize what you can use this spreadsheet for. The top section of the bots are all started first with some bad coins and good coins just to give an idea of how bots actually work during these market conditions.

  • We know from the results that increasing Take profit literally gives more ROI/day for every single setting... It's a no brainer to increase Take Profit for overall more profit.

  • During the time of testing, there was not a single bot that is not profitable (Nov on paper trade v4). So there's hardly anything to test how well they do on dips. This is a good time to check the s/s when we get a massive correction and ADR starts filling up, and check how well each setting managed to recover from these dips.

  • Obviously the lower costing bots are generating more ROI, so people with big bankrolls that don't mind a bit riskier setting can run these lower costing bots but ramp up the BO/SO and generate more profits overall. Obviously it all depends on the additional risks you can add onto your settings.

Now if you scroll down the the bottom of the S/S the ones highlighted light green are ones I started at the same time with all the current popular settings. These are coins are strong coin selections that I have in my live portfolio.

I'll take a snapshop of the paper trade.

  • Main thing is look at the both ROI columns, but also look at the Active Deals Reserve (ADR or uPNL) and compared to other settings. Don't force yourself to switch what's working for you, but its more to give an idea if they are performing close to what your own settings are doing. Things like a how deep a retracement, coin selection, what market conditions, etc all impact the actual roi, so don't just use roi to assume one is better. They are all viable solutions.

  • From just a brief look, you can see why I do not advise new people to just jump into mizukage settings without understanding them. They are generating up to x5-x6 profits compared to others but they also have x6-x8 times more ADR. This is not even with any noticeable dips. So imagine when we get that major retracement, people are going to feel unedgy. But saying that if you were say to pick very strong coins, and coins you really didn't mind holding, then its a viable choice. I myself would be very reluctant to just select an random volatile coin that I was not comfortable holding red bags for.

  • The TA 2.5 are doing exactly as I expected ROI wise, and running mine at 200-250% during this bull run last month made my daily roi at 0.3% when I stopped them.

  • The Mars settings were also exactly as I expected, the aim is to keep close roi to urma type settings and hopefully outperform Urma in terms of ROI based on Max Required Funds. And do better as we get deeper retracements (lower ADR). So the ROI was slightly less but my ADR was also less.

    Only worry for Mars settings is I'm only covering 42% deviation. To Try keep the Required change % low as the TA 2.5 settings. So usually these type settings are for lower bankroll like using Urmas costing like $250 per bot. If you are happier to have a safer bot for a slightly higher costs, Mars costing like $365 per bot. Even those on bigger bankrolls Mars settings can literally do bigger size bo/so and see bigger gains. For example $50/$50. or $100/$100 (I wouldn't advise higher than this as the bot costs reaches 3.5k)

    Update - As we gathered more data halfway through November Mars came out on top for both ROI Columns and Still maintained a lower ADR. So for spending a little more costs per bot, you have a safer bot than urma and can be run aggressive to really go for bigger profits. e.g. running like myself at $100/$100 at $3.5k per bot.

  • Mercury was a surprise result, its somehow doing better than both Urma and Mars recently so may need to look back into that setting, but if you compared them to the above set of settings in top half, it wasn't as good. Anyways not going to look into it in detail as I'm already committed to Mars settings for the time being. (Later during the month, the Mercury lost steam and ROI and Mars was clearly best ROI in both columns apart from Mizu, but Mizu Actual ROI Based was worrying as could be negative on big dips). Mizu ADR gets out of control on dips.

  • The safer settings like all the TA settings, Mantis were exactly as expected too. Much lower ADR as than the rest so relatively safe bots. Most people wouldn't run the Mantis settings because they just cost way too much to run without a very big bankroll. The problem with these settings is ROI is very low.

Anyways I hope this was just an eye opener for experience and new botters to just have a nice glance of the current community settings and why everyone's doing so well with their bots. But make sure we keep our risks levels under control. The last thing I want is people to get REKT like in the May crash.

Also if you haven't already seen the Required change spreadsheet, its a good idea to learn how your settings are actually doing averaging down as the price drops.

If you want to run Mizu type settings, make sure you know when to stop them or stick to solid coins or coins you are happy to keep. If we keep on going with the bull market, and don't have big retracements, they will be big roi earners, but myself I would be careful with coins u don't really want red bags with, I would avoid low cap coins with high volatility.

Majority of new members with a smaller bankroll start on TA Safe, TA aggressive or Urma. And slowly move more to TA standard, TA 2.5, TA uptrend, or Mars. But always advised to paper trade other settings at same time to understand how each settings performs and works for themselves with their coins.

Happy Botting all!

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